“It isn’t about making money or being famous. It’s about going against the grain, giving people something different to listen to and being inspired by the everyday human.”
We’re always keen to chat with our alumni, so when we heard about a new podcast by two brothers titled The Black Sheep Project, we were interested to know more.
Mark and Rabee are the brains behind the podcast that’s “in search of the black sheep, the outlier, the different, the interesting, the real, the wonderful and the weird.”
“The whole reason we started our podcast was because we'd had enough of the usual straight edged, manicured media, in particular that 15 second media grab which you see most nights on TV or hear on the radio. We're interested in what’s beneath and what it is that makes people tick,” said Mark.
Recorded in Murdoch’s radio studios, each episode delves into the thoughts and experiences of a ‘black sheep.’ Guests so far have been an eclectic mix. They include Warren Hepworth who travelled across Australia on a bicycle, and Gabe Enslin, who’s just started a virtual reality tech start-up based out of Perth.
Guest Dave Mule travels around the world trying to find the best coffee beans, while Paul Nelson described how he is helping people transform their bodies and minds in gyms across Australia.
Library sprints, nervousness and euphoria
Mark graduated with a double degree in International Business and Politics and International Relations, while Rabee completed a double degree in Sound Production and Design and Radio Communications. Two very different fields but their university experience has shared similarities.
“We both have really fond memories of our time at Murdoch. All those sprints from the library to the assignment submission boxes haven’t been forgotten,” said Mark.
The exam timetables, assignment deadlines and late nights all amount to that final milestone – graduation. For both Mark and Rabee, graduation remains a standout of their time at uni.
“Just the sense of accomplishment at the end is something that you can’t go past and it’s really hard to explain to someone who hasn’t been in those shoes. It’s like a sense of nervousness and euphoria at the same time, you can literally feel a page in your life being turned over,” said Mark.
“I personally remember being really calm afterwards and just knowing that everything was going to be ok,” Rabee adds.
People-orientated and authentic in nature, the Black Sheep Project gets beneath the surface and to the heart of a topic. While Mark and Rabee insist the guests are the focus, their own experiences and insights have informed the podcast that’s gaining Perth’s attention.
“Our family came to Australia from a war-torn country in the late 80’s so we’ve always just had to figure things out ourselves. Thinking for yourself, to us, means reliance and survival in the face of adversity. Murdoch taught us to make up our own minds and be true to our morals and values,” Mark explains.
The black sheep point of view may sometimes be controversial, but that’s the idea – to bring the outlier to the forefront and provoke discussion. Murdoch encourages free thinking and new perspectives remain welcome. Ultimately, the audience is trusted to make up their own mind.
Mark and Rabee concluded by explaining how Murdoch was the right place for them and a catalyst for the creation of the whole project.
“We could have chosen a whole heap of other universities where we’d have received a classical education and ticked all the boxes that a uni student needed to tick. But instead, we learnt about people, difference, prejudice, being passionate about what you believe in and just having a crack.”
For all the black sheep out there, you can find your flock at Black Sheep Project or via iTunes.